The Litter Box
~ Wednesday, December 15, 2010
The Second 9/11or
How to get disowned in 3 easy steps.
This is a repost from my facebook, and the post that got me disowned, starting a week of drama surpassed only by the murder of my fiancee 19 years ago. I have changed or abbreviated some names.
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If you don't want to know, don't read this.
Because I'm tired of him talking shit and being disrespectful.
My comments on the posts in light blue.
Former son:
So ppl know and so ppl stop sending me stuff i dont care about 911 it was 9 years ago get over it. If u cant get over it i can look up a number for a therapist in a area near you. im sure i can find a copy of the yellow pages.
18 hours ago · Comment ·LikeUnlike
Former son's best friend's mom
Seriously (FS)?????? I love you but this makes me so sad.
15 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Me
People like you are part of the problem of why we're losing our freedom in the United States. If you honestly don't care that over 3000 people died and draconian measures were enacted in it's wake, then you need to wake the fuck up and move out of the United States. You don't deserve the few freedoms you have left.
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Trevor
dang lol motherly love
9 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Me
Fuck that. When you're wrong, you're wrong, I don't discriminate
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Trevor
Lol and we love you for that
.9 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Me
Thank God
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Former son:
I have told ppl this for 5 years running now hell i told ppl when it happend but now all the sudden its some big thing. WTF just shows ppl dont pay attention o well. if u dont like it DELETE is right next to my name under your list of pals go click it. and mom u should know by now ranting to me or about me or ppl like me just goes in one ear and right out my nose i dont give it time to get to the other ear. so let me be the first to tell you your wasting your breath.
6 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Me
I knew that when I posted. However, some of the shit that spews out of your mouth requires a response anyway. Some people have what is known as integrity. You obviously don't know what that is. I suggest dictionary.com.
11 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
So..he DOES! He had to LOOK UP integrity!!! *facepalm*
Former son
–noun
1. adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
2. the state of being whole, entire, or undiminished: to preserve the integrity of the empire.
3. a sound, unimpaired, or perfect condition: the integrity of a ship's hull.
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Former son
I dont see were a event that ppl died at is on my list of shit to give a rat about so far dead ppl and there fam prob are not mine and till they are made my prob ill keep the same level of Intergrity i have had about this for the last 5 years
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So...the holocaust means nothing...pearl harbor means nothing...WWI and WWII and Korea and vietnam all mean nothing. Suicide bombers are ok, murderers are fine. Just a bunch of dead people. Why care?
Me
So if you don't care that people you don't know were killed, why did you want to become a police officer? That tends to require giving a shit about people you don't know
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I was trying to point out that he's wanted to be in the military and/or a police officer his WHOLE life and I can't make that desire to help people mesh with his statement that he doesn't care about people he doesn't know. If you don't care about people you don't know, why become a police officer? The only answers possible are (1) He does care about people and this whole thing is just him trolling (being a douche) or (2) he really doesn't care about people, and he wants to be in the military or a police officer because he wants to be in a position of power and authority over other people.
Former Son
no not really and now it seems your reaching for staws that wont realy get a response from me
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"No not really"? How can you be a police officer and NOT give a shit about protecting and serving the people? So you're putting YOUR LIFE on the line for people you don't care about? How is that POSSIBLE??
And how is that "grasping at straws" when it goes back to the very heart of the matter, IE, he says he doesn't care about people dying if he doesn't know them?
Now I'm getting mad. But I figure it's not worth getting into a big arguement about. He OBVIOUSLY doesn't understand alot of basic concepts here. So I'm going to let it go.
Me
Actually, yes, really.
Translation: you can't come up with a response that doesn't look retarded.
No problem. I understand. The last you'll hear from me about it.
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This is the last thing I've said to my former son and/or his wife. ^^
At this point, I "hid" him from my wall posts, so that going forward, I didn't get pulled into any more trolling. I choose to believe that he's just trying to piss people off and he isn't really as fucking clueless about national events, the consequences of those events, and that maybe he doesn't have some type of primal power trip.
But he couldn't leave it alone.
Former Son
Ok fine no i dont give a rat about dead ppl no i wont give a rat about dead ppl i was trying to become a cop cus i have no problem turning off the emotion that would make me give a rat about dead ppl so no really it was not i have no problem shuting down my emotion YOU know this so again i dont give a rats ass. and for you to even try to go in to WELL you want to be a cop changes the subject i was on about 911. showing that u got nothing more or better to say then well im glad your not a cop OOOO im hurt my mother again thinks im a fuck up wow a shocker ppl
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*sigh* There is so much telling here that it kind of made me sad. But mostly, it just highlights how much he isn't understanding what I was saying. Why would you have to "turn off emotion" if you don't care in the first place? I wasn't changing the subject about the cop thing, it was directly related to his arguement about not caring about people who died 9 years ago. But it seems he's trying to deflect. And obviously I didn't say "I'm glad you're not a cop." But he's right, if he doesn't give a shit about people, then yeah, I'm really glad he's not a cop. I don't want a cop out there with a gun and authority to abuse people if he's doing it just because he gets a rush off of being in a position of power. There's already way too many of them.
Do I think he's a fuck up? I think he needs to grow a pair of balls and get a damn job and stop mooching off his wife's parents. I think he nees to man up and take care of his wife. I think if his wife's parents are kind and generous enough to support them while they go to school that they need to GO TO SCHOOL and stop fucking aroung and missing classes and making up bullshit excuses for why they can't attend class. (What was that about integrity again??) I am working a FULL time job, raising my 17 year old, AND taking 3 classes. ALOT of people I know are working full time and taking classes. So what is THEIR excuse for not going to school when they don't even have to work?
I was talking to Moose about it last night....if *I* had someone supporting me so that I didn't have to work, I would be taking SIX (count them) SIX classes per semester, I'd be pulling straight frigging A's. I'd be THANKFUL that I had the OPPORTUNITY. But are they thankful for what they're getting? Well, lets look at their actions.... uh... doesn't look like it.
OOOOOO that pissed me off....but I said he wasn't going to hear anything else about it from me, so I didn't post a response.
Former son's wife: (my name) If you honestly don't care that "over 3000 people died and draconian measures were enacted in it's wake", it seems to me you care more the draconian measures and blaming all muslims for this than those people died. did you know anyone who was there or was effected by this? those are the people who really get to say something about this day, most everyone else is just on a band wagon. and i dont know about you but i think not hopping on some nationwide bandwagon shows a hell of a lot of integrity.
OK, did she ever take a "reading comprehension" class? Where in the statement I made ANYWHERE in this thread did I say that I blame all muslims? And what the HELL does the PATRIOT ACT and PATRIOT ACT II have to do with blaming muslims?
Yes, I knew someone who died at the towers. I also knew a few cops who are sick and dying as a result of helping try to find bodies at ground zero. I also know people that knew people who died that day: my very good friend AND my husband (who was living in New Jersey, right across the river from where it happened) So I "guess" I "get to say something about this day". So glad I have your fucking permission to express an opinion about something that happened that COMPLETELY EFFECTED MY LIFE AND THE LIFE OF ALL PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY.
OOOOH this pissed me off. She was like 12 when 9/11 happened. She doesn't understand what it was like to be an adult PRE 9/11. Neither of them understand what we've lost. What the FUCK does she know about it? She doesn't even understand the basic concept of NATIONAL TRAGEDY. Bandwagon? Fucking really?
And all the shit she's done, she has the fucking NERVE to talk to me about INTEGRITY?
Oh HELL no!
I went back and looked at all the stuff she's posted on her facebook. ANYTHING I posted that disagreed with her and had a cogent argument, she deleted. So I said, you know what? Fuck and this. Obviously, she feels I have no integrity, and obviously she feels that my posts are not worth reading, so I'm done with her. Removed.
Then I thought, you know what? I don't feel like dealing with HIS trolling, dickish ass either. I don't mind if you disagree with what I'm saying, but obviously, neither of them has a fucking clue about what the real world is about, so any refutation of their backward logic would fall on deaf ears. And former son even SAID he was going to remain willfully ignorant. I really don't need to be wasting my time or energy. I have way too much going on to worry about him. He's adult, he's married with his own family, and I don't need to be in there. So I'm not. Removed him too.
I went on to my duaghter's facebook this morning to remove them both from there as well (since she doesn't get on it and I only keep it open to play games with) and saw this:
Former Son
I use face book to keep in tuch with ppl who For what ever reson want to keep in tuch with me all of u are here by your choice If u got a problem with my INTEGRITY or any other big word u think i dont know feal free to delete my profile and then my vews and INTEGRITY or Lack there of wont bother you.
tuch = T O U C H
reson= R E A S O N
feal= F E E L
vews= V I E W S
there of= thereof (one word)
Get hooked on phonics. I wonder how long he's going to jerk his wife's parents around before they figure out he doesn't really give a shit about going to school, he's just stretching out his mooch factor? Do you guys realize how long I've been fighting with him about his schooling? Basic English? Oh, I'm not saying he CAN'T do it, I know damn well he can. But HE DOESN'T CARE!! So what's the point?
"INTEGRITY or any other big word u think i dont know"? Bitch you had to LOOK IT UP. And you're right, your ass backward non-understanding of history, current events and even basic sociology won't bother me any more, and you won't be able to try to lecture me about MY integrity, which you OBVIOUSLY don't know anything about.
How did I go so wrong with this one? It makes me feel batter to remember that I didn't have him until he was 7. Maybe most of this is due to the influence of those lying murderers. I only hope that the rest of the time, my influence was able to abrogate some of that damage. Yeah, I have guilt there. But he is only as fucked up as he chooses to be. Maybe I should look in the phone book and find him a therapist.
*grin*
FB Comments on the original Note:
MB WOW. This is going to be an exciting reunion!
September 12 at 10:14am · LikeUnlike
Me lol I really don't mind if people have a different opinion, as long as they don't get disrespectful about it.
September 12 at 10:15am · LikeUnlike
Trevor And the crowd goes wild!!! You know it just goes to show you that theres someone out there for everyone.
Douches in the night exchanging glances
Wond'ring in the night
What were the chances
we'd be sharing love
Before the night was through. ...whew had to stop always broke into the love boat theme song...not sure why lol.
September 12 at 10:16am · LikeUnlike
Me ROFL
September 12 at 10:16am · LikeUnlike
SP well you did say you would post stuff if "they put their business out there"
September 12 at 10:17am · LikeUnlike
Me Yup. They want to do it in public, I'm good with that. Don't come whining when I address it publically. oh...wait...that means I have integrity....
September 12 at 10:18am · LikeUnlike
Me I mean....am I way off base here? Did I take any of this out of context? Cuz if I'm wrong, I'm willing to admit it....but sadly, I don't think I am....
September 12 at 10:23am · LikeUnlike
MB Oh, I'm not arguing with you. Personally, I would have unfriended him long ago with that attitude. I'm on facebook to have fun and visit with people I haven't seen in a while, not to listen to idiots.
September 12 at 10:33am · LikeUnlike
SP this makes my heart hurt.. a public safety officer has to have compassion and understanding and yes has to be unemotional at times. I mean what do you say to the mother that just got her kid beat and is in a hospital? "im sorry but its not ...my problem" that wont cut it at all what do you say to a family member as they are crying because the member has been murdered in cold blood. its not my problem. its unacceptable in my eyes. September 12 at 10:37am · LikeUnlike
Me Well that was my whole point. It's good to be unemotional at times, but what is the REASON you are jeopardizing your life, if you TRULY don't care about people you don't know?
September 12 at 10:38am · LikeUnlike
Then Booger got pissy and started arguing with MB for which he has apologized. I have edited those out.
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Part Two: The Disowning
I went to an SCA meeting on Sunday. Booger was at FS's house that weekend, and when I got home, he was home and there was a letter waiting for me on my desk. Not in an envelope, so Booger obviously read it. He admitted it later. So FS dragged my Booger into it. On purpose. Here is the text of the letter (my comments interspersed in light blue), which I will correct spelling wise, simply because it would take longer to retype it with all the errors.
I want to note that this is the only place this letter is public, and it won't be added to facebook, but since nobody I know actually reads this blog anyway, I really have some final thoughts over the last several months that I have never expressed to him or his wife (or anyone else for that matter) that I need to say (you know, that whole need for the final word thing, even if they never hear it). I really feel like I need to defend myself, and I've chosen here to do it. So here we go. (Names changed or abbreviated.)
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(my first name)
I saw your facebook. Wow, big shocker, right. Any who, you had some stuff in it that I have answers for.
He's talking about the note above, that I wrote after defriending him and his wife. Unfortunately, I didn't exclude booger, and he had it up on the computer at FS's house and FS saw it, which sparked this letter and all the stuff after.
To start this out, you should know that the only reason I have even still been speaking to you is because every time we get in a fight you pull (Booger) into it and I feel bad. Well now it's tough shit. I've told (Booger) you hit a line with me and not to expect you to allow him to come over.
You asked where you fucked up with me, well let me tell you so you don't fuck up with (Booger). You were never a mother in any regard. You sit on your ass at work and at home, to only force your kids to take care of you. You are the kind of person who should be forced to take a test ot even be allowed to think about having kids. You fail so bad as a mother you can't even clothe your own 1 child let alone feed him as needed.
Yes. Because teaching you how to cook and clean and run a household is such a bad thing that you even remarked that you're glad I did teach you those things, and now you are using those skills because your wife can't cook or clean worth a shit. Your words. You remarked on that at LEAST 4 times. She also thanked me for teaching you to cook, clean, do laundry, bills, etc. And yeah, after a 9 hour day at work (which is, admittedly a sitting at a desk job), I'm tired. You know what? You don't pay rent, so you can help out by getting me a damn glass of tea! Or even (gasp) making a pitcher of tea in the TEA MAKER!! Or (horrors) cleaning your bathroom that I don't even use. OMG!! What a bad, bad mother I am!!
Booger is 6'5" and goes about 215. He has two school pants and 2 school shirts (uniform policy) and 1 pair of nice jeans (the zipper is broken but I've told him to give them to me after they are washed and I will take them to the dry cleaners to get them repaired. He still hasn't. He's 17 years old. If he doesn't care, why should I?), the rest of his clothes are stained, old, and ratty because he tends to wear his food, wipe his hands on his pants, and although the boy never goes outside, there are holes in the knees. I can't afford $50 per pair of pants for him to stain them all. So he gets school clothes twice a year (once at the start of each semester) and his old school clothes become home clothes. Sorry that I'm not rich, kid. If you're so well off, YOU buy him some clothes and watch him destroy them in the FIRST TWO DAYS, then we'll talk about "being able to clothe" him.
And any parent of a teenage boy knows about the challenge of feeding one. We limit his food intake because he simply doesn't NEED to eat 3 large pizzas and a 2 liter of soda at a sitting (which he has done on more than one occasion). The boy eats 2 - 3 times + snacks per day. He's not malnurished. Most dinners are split into 4 portions, he eats two, Moose and I eat one each. So you have no idea what you're talking about. Again.
You asked who is responsible for who I am today. Well I am very happy to tell you NOT YOU. The pack of wild killers at age 7 seem to be more of a familty that yours ever was, before and after you tossed me out.
Background note: My first husband was raised by his aunt and uncle. They had 7 other children. In high school, I was dating a guy named Steve and we were on again, off again, and on one of our off periods, I ended up getting with his best friend, who I ended up marrying. I got pregnant at age 16 with FS, and I chose to give the child to 1st husband's aunt and uncle, because my 1st husband wanted me to abort the baby at 5 months and told me he'd kill the baby when it was born if we kept it. (That should have been my first clue.) He ended up being abusive. After my first husband and I divorced, I became (re-)emotionally involved with Steve, then we were on again and off again, and on again, and finally, my 1st husband and his uncle killed him. The cops knew that FS was not theirs, so they called me and me and Piggy's dad went to pick him up when he was age seven. Easy his life has not been.
The "tossed out" he was referring to was when he was 17 and got laid for the first time...it screwed up his head and I tried to lay down the law but he was lying to me, sneaking out and being disrespectful to the point I ended up calling the sheriff's department after he ran away. They said if they got another call on his he's be considered by the state to be an "undisciplined juvenile", he'd be taken from me and made a ward of the NC court until age 21. So I sent him to Piggy's dad's house. So yeah, I tossed him out....so he wouldn't get taken and put into the state system. I know, I'm a bad mother.
After you tossed me out because of Marcia I was probably the most pissed off and crazy ass teen I ever was. I know of the one person who gets FULL credit for calming me down and even getting me to talk to your beligerant bull headed add.
(BS). (Best friend)'s mom, who you never met on the sure fact that yes even that saint thinks you're a fuck up.
Because the only things she heard about me were from you, who I know for a fact lied to not only her but about Marcia's parents...because they told me what you told them about me, which were complete lies, designed to gain you sympathy. Much like this letter which is so full of shit the pages should be brown.
She helped me in more ways than you could dream of.
Really? Like those times when you were 18 and at Piggy's dad's house after he deployed to Iraq and you through a home-made bomb into a friends pool on the back side of the Air Force base? Like when you were kicked out of highschool because you told them you were going to blow it up? Like when the police came to Piggy's dad's house and searched it for bomb making materials? She helped you with that? Nice. And *I'M* the bad mother.....
Following this page is a copy of my High School Certificate of Graduation (not diploma). This being one of the few things I did right in my life that again you have no credit in. You see (BS) and her husband and kids were more of a family in 1, yes 1 year I lived with them than you ever were. I felt more love and family bond with people I never met that I ever did with you. I no longer have any problem telling you to fuck off being that through out the years you have done nothing but fail and fuck up as a human being let alone a mother.
Actually, I'm a great human being, and almost every single person I know will say so. And you know what? Human beings make mistakes and fuck up and make bad choices and do things wrong and have regrets and are liars and disloyal and disrespectful and sometimes aren't very nice. They are also loving, kind, generous, honest, hard working and selfless. I think I'm a GREAT human being. And if *I* am what you consider a failure as a human being, I don't even *want* to know what you consider yourself.
There is nothing in my life that you have helped me to do or be proud of; or that you have any right to take claim to. (BS) is the only mother I have ever had and your damn lucky she was not at my wedding. She could not get her mom to pay her way (but I thought she was the perfect mother? You mean she didn't BUDGET HER MONEY to be able to attend your wedding? You mean your mother didn't show up? Well, do I get any credit for all the crap I had to do to get to your wedding with YOUR SISTER?) and it was too late for me to buy her plane ticket. (You prolly lied to her and told her you'd pay for it then changed your mind at the last minute, like you did to me.) So you can sleep at night knowing that what I am is not your doing.Oh trust me, I'm FUCKING ECSTATIC that what you are is not my doing. Thanks for getting that part right, at least. I wouldn't want you to have that much credit. But as you see, you just gave it to me. DOH!! (BS) is what fixed your fuck up. So know what I am is not, never has been, or ever will be because of you so don't give yourself the gratitude. Don't worry. I'm thankful that the only child I raised, my Booger, will never be a sorry, lying, spiteful and hateful person like you. He is full of love, and life, and intelligence and kind heartedness that you will never know.
And you really need to get the fuck over Steven being killed and stop blacing blame on the people who were not involved.
I don't place blame on people who weren't involved. The people involved were my 1st husband, his aunt and uncle and the two older daughters (one of which was showing off Steve's dismembered hand to her friends).
Again another dead guy I never gave a shit about. Well you should, because that one dead guy changed your life forever. Otherwise you would never have known me or your former brother and sister, and you never would have met Marcia and you never would have met your best friends and your new mommy. So in a way, that one dead guy is the reason your life is what it is right now (and ever will be). And because it's very obvious that you're deliberately saying things just to try to hurt my feelings, because paragraph is a little rambly. As soon as you get over your little BF being shanked in the back by his buddy the better you will be.
OK, I tell you what. How about Marcia's dad tells her to kill your wife. And she calls her up and invites her for coffee. They go and your wife is never seen again. Then, 4 years later, the police find out that not only did Marcia and her dad TORTURE your wife by putting hundreds of little cuts all over her naked body when it was duct taped to a chair, and then rubbing lemon juice and salt in her wounds, talking shit about you and how you never actually loved her, and telling lies meant to demoralize her into despair, the cut her leg off at the knee and she bleeds out, saying your name with her dying breath. See if you get over it. Ever. Double dog fucking dare you, asshole.
That's the way I've always been. Sure you're bullshitting on your I'M A CHRISTIAN because you can never forgive any one and this is what proves it. You're holding one man's actions on over 20 people including your own son. Yeah real God like I know. I have a forgiveness problem. It's something I'm working on and getting better about. But this one teeny tiny little event isn't one I'm ready to tackle quite yet. I don't have it in me. But I am a Christian. I do my best to live by Jesus' ways. Again, I'm a human being. A fallible person who doesn't get it right ALOT of the time. But at least *I'M* trying. More than you can say. (And by the way, I forgive you for all this drama, even the hurtful parts. But I will never take your poison back into my life. Ever. And I will never let it get around my children while they are under my care.)
As for (wife's parents) you don't know SHIT about them, us, or what's going on so trying to put your nose in that shit just shows how fucking stupid you really are. How much you and your ignorant ass don't know so lets fill you in so you can think you got the 411.
You're right: all I know is what you've told me over and over and over about them and what they say and what you say to them, and what you did and didn't do, and their fights and your wife tells me that any time they get in a fight he buys her a car. I know you told me that they buy that condo you're living in for your wife. I know that he is the chair of a department at the University. I know she works at a bank. I know they buy all your groceries and give you money every month and pay your bills and paid $10,000 for your wedding, which you tried to convince me and Moose that YOU were in control of (like buying me a plane ticket to your wedding). I know you strain against their control because you don't like some of their decisions and I told you on more than 5 occasions that "He who has the money has the power" and told you to go get a job so you have power over your own life. I know that they put their daughter in college so she could have medical insurance, because she's a psychopathic bipolar schizophrenic hypochondriac and needs therapy and meds. Alot. I know she dropped out of all her classes with some bullshit excuse. I know they think you are some kind of saint because you'll put up with their crazy ass daughter's bullshit and drama. I know they prefer you over her ex boyfriend: a bipolar transvestite bisexual who played wow all day and night and emotionally, sexually, and physically abused her. You're a prince in comparison and they don't want you to leave!! I know they paid alot of money for you to go fix your driver's license in Texas so you could get into BLET. I know they paid for you to go to BLET. ($1700 you told me.) I know you quit the second day because your wife "couldn't handle being a cop's wife". Uh....and you couldn't figure that out BEFORE they put that money down?? But you're right, I only know what you've told me, and most of that is probably lies, now that I think about it. So please, give me the 411.
(Wife's parents) are fucking saints in the fact that they're doing every thing you can't do. You're right. I can't afford to buy you a condo, buy you a car when we get in fights, or pay for your new family and mine too. I'm sorry, maybe you should have made sure you could take care of a wife BEFORE you married her?? I'm not their child and yet they do so much more for me than you ever did. Let this be a lession: money apparently buys happiness. Not because of (wife) not because they think they have to (oh, yes they do. They'll never tell you to your face, but they're buying your allegiance to their crazy daughter.) but because they like me for who (BS) helped me to be. But....you're an asshole..... So before you go on about how I'm using them and how I'm not working go check out all fucking apps I have put in. How about we discuss the job you had for 3 days at the Zaxby's that you quit because you really don't want to work when they'll give you handouts for free?? So as you try to sleep tonight feel free to compare yourself to all the people (wifes parents, best friends parents) all who care for me and have helped raise me. Man...you sure are concerned for my sleep. Don't worry, I haven't missed any sleep over this little revelation of your true character. Actually, I feel better knowing what kind of person you really are, so I can take steps to protect my self and my family from your poison. And do compare what they have done to all the times YOU LEFT, you dropped me in someone else's lap, and the lack of fucking clothing for the ONE KID you have. OK...if you're that mad at me about Boogers clothes, have your wife's parents buy him some (since you can't afford it....oh wait...that's right...you can't afford to buy him a whole bunch of clothes either....maybe that's why you're so angry??)
Well I'm ranting and I kind of feel like I'm wasting my time you are because this is all shit I've told you before about how you suck as a mother and should not have the one kid you have, let alone the one girl you LEFT BEHIND. Yes, I had to make a decision: suicide because I was so miserable or leaving my daughter with her father when I left him. So...wait......are you happy I left her because I'm such a shitty mother or are you mad I left her with her father because I'm a shitty mother? Can you elaborate on that point?? Cuz I'm not clear on that.
And I know you well enough to know you're going to go call mom and get her on me. Well, unlike you, I actually LOVE my mother, and have respect for the things she's experienced and been through. I try to listen to her when she tells me things. And she's my, you know, SUPPORT system and someone who's opinion's I respect. Well you can tell her to get bent and please tell her that when she stops giving Trevor a BJ the world will still be there in the morning. Oh, you're just mad because she loves Trevor better than you, because you're an asshole and Trevor isn't. As for everyone else in your disfunctional what you call family can all get bent as well. The sole reason I spoke to most of you fuck ups was (Booger).
So let's be clear here: FUCK YOU (my name) FUCK YOU (my mom's name) FUCK Trevor preemtive FUCK Jessica FUCK Rachel and who the fuck needs 20 years to get an 8 year degree FUCK HER TOO. Jessica and Rachel are my nieces who I sent a copy of this letter to...and still decided they'd rather remain in contact with my former son rather than with me. So I have written them off as well. If they would RATHER be in FS's life, I DON'T WANT THEM IN MINE.
Again following this is a copy of my high school Diploma and a picture of my family who helped me more in 1 year than you have done or ever could do in a lifetime. As for spelling does it look like I give a fuck what you think. Really spelling is the big deal u go at fucking tard.
(Former Son)
Actually, I pity you. I feel sorry for the person you grew up to be, and for the events that put your life on this road. I tried to do my very best to correct my many mistakes, but I see I only compounded them. And that's not your fault. So even though you'll never be a part of my life again, I forgive you. I honestly recommend you get some real therapy because you have alot of rage and hatred in you. But you'll never get anywhere until you're honest with yourself, your wife, and all the people you've lied to, not just about me, but EVERYTHING. You are a habitual, chronic liar, even about things that don't matter, and you need to fix that FIRST before you can move on with your life.
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Part Three: The Fallout:
(Second FB note)_______________
So, to update, I got back from (a local beach town) and Booger was home and there was a letter on my desk from Former Son. I can't bring myself to type it all out right now, but suffice to say that as far as I'm concerned, my oldest son is dead.
Here is the final shit posted on Former son's wife's page.
8:30pm
FSW
Has one true mother inlaw, (initials BS)! thank you for being such
a wonderful and loving mother to my husband. everything he is and will ever be is
because of your love. i am enteraly thankful for you and all you have done in his
life. thank you and i love you.
5 hours ago
Former Son
Woot thanks MOM
5 hours ago
My mother:
I have no problem with u acknowledging (BS) ........ I
have a BIG problem with the way you and FS have treated my daughter and HIS
MOTHER. Shame on you both. Sorry (wife's mom), but that needed to be said. I'm so
disappointed in FS and his wife.
2 hours ago
Former Son
O boo hoo always with the (my name) (my name) (my name) frankly i
dont give a shit about what she you or any one else has to say on the matter i
dont know why the hell (wife) even has u on her face book you just ster shit up and
blame Jessica for it what ever u and your crazy sico bitch kid have to say can
now be kep in the family and that means NOT TOLD TO ME.
2 hours ago
Wait...didn't you tell Jessica to go fuck herself in the letter? (scrolls up....) Yeah. Preemptively, even. Well, it turns out that Jessica called FS and he lied to her too, and she believed him, EVEN after I sent her the letter. She has decided to remain on his FB, so I have removed her from my life.
Former Son
Hate to blow your Bubble up (my mom's name) but (my name) is no
mother and in her own words i can prove it cus she even tells ppl about my
Spermdoner Travis is not a father. A mother and father are ppl who give a shit
about u (Like your spermdonor who wwanted me to abort you and told me if I didn't give you away he'd kill you as an infant? I wouldn't call that a father, no.) and dont act like complet jerk offs or abanden there kid they dont want
then one day say hay ill lie to get him back (not sure what this is about....I didn't lie to anyone to get him back...the state called me IN ENGLAND and told me that if we didn't come and get him they would put him in foster care.) its cool so go take your Boohoo shes
your mom sob story and blow it up your ass or Trevers that matter u blow every
thing else up there. if travis is no father then (my name) is sure as shit no mother. (Yes...we're totally the same. He's a murderer and I'm....not. He wanted to abort FS and I...didn't. He's in prison for ever and I'm...not. Wait....what are the similarities again??
2 hours ago
My mother
Wife, I am so hurt and disappointed in your post about
(my name).
about an hour ago
Wife
(My mom's name) i am so hurt and disappointed in the way
everyone in your family treats (FS) and (booger). and for the recourd this post
had nothing to do with (my name), it was about (BS). (My name) defriended me, and i
believe it was implied(by [my name]) that... i am ungrateful, illiterate, crazy,
douche who has no understanding of the world, so why would she give a damn what i
think. i also believe it has been implied(once again by [my name]) thatmy parents are
awful parents (I never once said they were awful parents. Not once.) because i could talk to them about eddie(which she doesnt know or
care to why) and they spoil me. No, YOU said they spoil you. I don't know how many times I had to hear about how whenever you fought with your father he bought you shit INSTEAD of actaully talking to you. I can't count how many times you told me you felt totally confortable talking to me BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TALK TO YOUR PARENTS. So were you lying to me or are you lying now?? well since i am being blamed for saying shit
about (my name) i never did i may as well tell you what i think...
i think (my name) is a selfish bitch who only thinks of herself. why do i say this?
lets see she buys new desk, new chairs and 1500$ computers with her taxs returns,
instead of buying despriatly need clothes for her son. have you seen (Boogers) clothes 90% of them are to small or torn. she also buys all this over going to
her oldest sons wedding(which unlike somepeople he plans for this to be the only
one).
also as only caring for herself and not her sons, you notice no one even
mention (Booger) coming to the wedding. but the fact that is she is selfish and
always puts herself before her children is not my big issuse with her. my issuse
is the way she and everyone else in your family look at (Former son). yes his sperm
donor was a sick fuck. yes he has had some issuse in the past. but that does give
anyone the right to look at like the fuck up you all think he is.
20 minutes ago
In my defense, FS told me that since they chose to move the wedding to Las Vegas instead of holding it in NC, he would pay for my ticket. He NEVER mentioned paying for Booger, Piggy or Moose's ticket to me. Not once. I foolishly believed him, and therefore did not budget a plane ticket into my tax refund money this year.
Lo and behold, he decided that since I spent my tax refund on computers, new desks BUYING BOOGER SCHOOL CLOTHES and paying off bills, I no longer deserved for him to pay my way as he promised. In the end, I sacrificed to take his sister and myself to Las Vegas, and I simply could not afford to take Booger, since I had to borrow money from my mother to go (she bought Piggy's ticket). He never once offered to pay for Booger to go, so I think wife is being a little one sided in this. It was HER wedding, if she wanted him there, SHE should have paid for it.
Booger is 17 years old and a growing boy. He ALWAYS has two pair of school pants and two school shirts at a minimum. His at home clothes are raggedy because he stains them and I let him do his own laundry, as part of his "chores". As of next semester I'm going to have to start shopping at a big n tall store, since he's a 42/36 and regular stores don't stock that size.
You all saw in the earlier note about exactly what I said about wife, and I stand by it. I think it's pretty fucked up for FS to treat my mother that way, and for that, if nothing else, I will never forgive him. Ever. It's been a hell of a day. I'm trying to tell myself that it's better to know how he really feels now before anything else happened (cutting my losses) but it's still hard to digest. I made mistakes in my life, but I tried to fix them as best I could. I take solace that I still have 2 children (and Moose's two daughters and my brand new vnuška) that love me and a supportive family to get me through this. Thanks to all of you for your kind words. I do appreciate them, even if sometimes I don't tell you that I appreciate you guys, I DO. And if I'm selfish, thump me upside the head and point it out to me, huh?
9:25pm
My mother
Wife, You shouldn't talk bout things you know nothing about. You have known
FS for what? 2 years?I have known him all his life. I was the one that he
called when he was down or wanted advice. I'm the one that encouraged him and was there for him as much as he let me. I was the one he called when he needed money
for a new top for his car to move to (my city) which I might add he never repaid
and that wasn't the first time - For him to talk to me the way he did in these
posts and the letter he wrote to (me) is unforgievable. He disowned me for which
I do not understand because I was nothing but good to him. FS, don't u even
try to deny that. So fine. I accept it and the fact that he wants nothing to do
with me and I can shove it up my ass. Thank you FS. Have a nice life. (my mom's name)
47 minutes ago
Wife
none of you believe in him. and none of you can take blame for his
issuse. everytime he does something wrong (my name) blames it on ron and bobbi or
marcia or somebody else. Totally not true. I put the blame on HIM. She can't cite ONE instance where I've done that. did anyone ever think how much it would fuck up a seven
year to be taken from his family and given to people he has never met(who clearly
didnt want him that bad, If I didn't want him, I wouldn't have borrowed money from the RED CROSS in ENGLAND for a plane ticket, a passport and all new clothes and toys and EVERYTHING. (my name) could have chosen FS over travis and kept him) I could have, but I wan't smart enough or strong enough at the time. I was 16/17 years old and IN LOVE. I was stupid and made a really dumb mistake, which I tried to correct as soon as I was given an opportunity.
and then told all the horible things travis did, Only when he asked what had happened, and only as much as I thought he could handle at the various ages he asked. and how much he looked like him. If the boy can see, the boy can see he's a mirror image.
are you all so wrapped up in yourselves that you never thought any of this would
cause some damage to a 7 YEAR OLD. no none of you cleary did. Nope. None of us even THOUGHT of this, wife, that's why he didn't go to therapy (and lie to the therapist) for 2 years or try to get all his medical issues worked out, or talk to over TWENTY mental health professionals (mostly involved with trauma) about how to help this boy. Nope. We're completely ignorant of how this might effect a seven year old. I suppose I should have just let him go into foster care where he was, so more kids could come up at school and tease him about how his father cut people up and put them in trashbags and buried them in back yard. That would have been SO MUCH BETTER. also (my name) little rant address FS's spelling issuses, did she ever think
maybe it was cause she never took the time to work with him. Right, because ALL THOSE HOURS I spent with flashcards and helping him with homework and school projects and talking to his teachers on a DAILY basis both in ENGLAND and here doesn't count. i have talk to
FS about school stuff and the reason he has issuse with it is because no one
ever set him down and show him good study skills and how to learn. He's lying to you. Flat out lying to you. i thank god no
of you tried to teach him to swim, you all would have thrown him in the deep end
and hoped for the best. "hmmm... he has been down there awhile maybe i should
check on him.... nah then i would have to get off my ass and do some parenting"i know (my name)s life hasn't been easy, and yeah that sucks. LOL you know nothing about my life, you fucking cunt. but it is not FS's
flaut. FS never hit her, FS never killed the man she loved, FS didnt
get her knocked up at 16(which by the way i have always wonder why was she
homeless then, why wasnt she with you.... hmmmm maybe thats where she learned to
be such a good mom). FS knows she hates him for being born. No, he's convinced himself of that because otherwise his hatred makes no sense. Which is why we were all completely in shock when this bullshit came out. he gets it and
has to live everyday with that. so maybe you should be disapointed in your
daughter for that and not us. and since i am none biting my tonuge and being nice, there is a song on the radio
with the lines "you never loved me, so you could never quit. i could rule this
fucking world and you'd still think im shit" we heard that song just said it
makes him think of you, (my mom's name). oooh song dedications! Life through song lyrics! how completely inane and teenager-ish. how does that make you feel. you have put him now
so much he doesnt even believe you truly love him, that it is all just for show.
i will never forget when you came to vist when (my name) moved and he told how he
wanted to be a cop and you told him you didnt think he could. why would you say
that? Because he's completely blind in one eye and has very poor vision in the other, no depth perception, anger issues, and can't spell for shit? whether or not you think he can or not as his grandmother you are supose to suport him. support doesn't mean blow smoke up his ass...it means being realistic. and i cause i am sure it will come up, yes he droped out of blet. but
that was because he made a choice to be a husband and oneday a father who can be
there for his family like his never was for him. He told me it was because YOU couldn't handle him being a cop. So who is lying? i know now that you have read all this you probaly think i am a horrible crazy bitch. no, we knew that before we read this. well i can honsetly tell you I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE
IN YOUR FUCKED UP FAMILY THINK ABOUT ME. the only true family i feel FS as
are the (best friend's family) who she's never met, the (family of his father) that she's met 2 of, and (Piggy's dad) who she's scared to death of. they are the ones i care what have to
say about me. and if this all blows over i want to make it clear IF FS does
forgive you all and decides to make nice, i will be polite but i will never
forgive you all for the hell you have put him through
47 minutes ago
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!! Wait a minute...you wont' forgive us?? Didn't your husband just take me to task because I don't forgive people? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Irony. They has it.
My mom
Again (wife) dont talk about what you know nothing. I'm not going to bother
addressing every point u brought up because it wont make any difference and quite
honestly I'm so disgusted with both of you I can't even express it. Like I said
...before, you have known FS 2 years. U know nothing of him or his life and
relationships other than what he tells you. I'm sorry FS didn't believe that
I loved him. Then why did he call me all the time and why did he say I love you
grandma when he didn't mean it? Obviously he was taking advantage of me and
playing me for everything he could. I liked u from the first day I met u (wife). I
was happy for both of you that u had found one other. I have never done anything
to u but be nice. I won't do to u what u have done to me and (my name) and blame your
parents for your terrible manners. I like (wife's parents) and have told FS many
times how lucky he is. As for police officer. FS is blind in one eye and no
police dept I know of will hire someone with that vision problem. I told him I
didn't think they would take him because of that. I didn't want him to be
disappointed. I have always encouraged him to go for whatever it was he wanted. I
think what u have said to me and what FS has said is so cruel and uncalled
for. It is not true. FS, honest to God I can't believe the feelings u have
expressed. I don't know where the hell all yhis is coming from. But okay Have it
your way. I know the truth therefore these lies do not hurt me. They just
astonish me and piss me off. I certainly hope u can sleep at night. AND I bet
(Piggy's dad) will be n your shit list and be disownesd when he hears about all of this.
Because he is going to ream your ass. He will be appalled at what u have said and
the way you bhave treated your family
.23 minutes ago
My mom
Oh I forgot to say that if FS ever forgivess us and is nice
.....well forget that cause I will never forgive him or you either.
16 minutes ago
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Later on, my mother told me that wife sent an email to me, Jessica, my mother and Trevor. It was more of the above bullshit, more stuff Justin told her that simply isn't true. At the end, she wrote something to the effect of "Even if they ever reconcile, know that (my name) will never see our children, and I will tell them that their grandmother died before they were born." I never actually received the email, because wife isn't smart enough to spell my email address correctly.
posted by Nikki B at 2:08:00 PM